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    Default TF and breastfeeding?

    I have a boxful of tony ferguson shakes but have been too scared to use them while breastfeeding but a fellow birther has said it might be ok?
    What do you think?
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    Thought I'd reply here instead of the other thread
    The shakes are around 200 calories yes? it's about the same as a decent bowl of mini wheats without the milk.
    So if you had a the shake plus a piece of fruit, a piece of toast or a yoghurt, that's plenty of calories for brekky. Same for lunch. for your snacks, have a piece of fruit or vegie sticks and some almonds or olives.

    There is nothing in the shakes that is a no-no in breastfeeding, it's jsut that the TF program doesn't have ENOUGH calories for a fully feeding mum. So add those extra cals in and you're right to use the shakes before they go out of date.

    Some mornings I make up some of DH's protein powder as I am bolting out the door... better than not eating brekky at all!
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    Yep makes perfect sense!!!

    Just been on the TF forums and it seems a few mums are doing it...

    but I was a bit worried about the ketones your body is making - not sure if they are harmful to pass thorugh to bubs???

    Oh I am so keen to get this started but obviously dont want to hurt DD. The TF staff actually dont reccomend it/????
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    You lose weight breastfeeding anyway, so I am sure ketones (sp? I know what they are though) wouldn't be an issue.

    Feeding will help you lose weight if that is your goal.
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    no no no no no no no!!!

    One of my good friends is a TF consultant and she said DONT use it while BF! (I was asking her about going on it) Something to do with some preservatives or something in them that pass through your milk and are NOT good for the baby. Maybe it is the ketones but I'm not exactly sure!!!

    I will email her to ask the exact details .... but as you said the TF people don't recommend it - its for a reason!!!!
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    The whole ketosis thing is a bit of a shady area.
    I'm losing weight around 600grams a week with normal diet choices, it's not any different you having a TF for breakfast than having a bowl of cereal. Like I said before there is nothing special in the shakes, they do contain a whole lot of sugar, which is funny for a low carbohydrate diet.

    Anyway, up to you, you could always sell them in the trading room and keep the money until you're ready to start TF again.

    ETA Cat the preservatives are no different to what's found in everyday supermarket food, I did check. Hmmm!
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    This is what my friend who worked for TF wrote me:

    DON"T LET HER DO IT!!! Although there is not a particular ingredient that is bad for babies, going into ketosis (when the body uses fat not food as energy) causes toxins to be released into the body which could make the baby VERY SICK. Tell her to eat healthy steer away from carbs and see a Tony Ferguson practitioner in a Terry White pharmacy and they'll be able to give her suggestions. No amount of weight is worth your babys life. I wouldn't risk it. If you'd like to send me her e-mail address I'll get on of the girls at my work to send her a plan!

    I guess if it is a "shady area" it would be something that I wouldn't want to risk - especially as they recommend against it!
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    What I don't get is this:
    By eating MORE than I want to, but tracking my calories to make sure that I am eating enough, I am losing MORE weight than my mum who is doing TF - but supposedly in ketosis... SO am I damaging my baby then with these toxins... hmmm?
    And yet she's being encouraged to avoid carbs which is more likely to put you into ketosis??
    Just doesn't make sense to me.
    You naturally lose weight while breastfeeding if you eat sensibly, there's "not a particular ingredient that is bad for babies".
    So, what's the reason again that you can't use TF shakes to make up your normal calorie allowance!?!
    Somebody tell me what I am missing here....
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    I wouldnt use them as meal replacements, as they are usually 'spozed to be.
    In a balance with healthy meals, i would think it safe

    BUT, as always, breast feeding or not, you are recommended to consult a GP first, so i highly recommend that, and then you will get true advice that is suited to YOU!

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    Bfing or not, you should never avoid carbs. There are different forms of carbohydrates. Ones that are easily processed by the body and others that are like glue.

    Knowing your food is the trick.
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